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		<title>Comment on what happened? by Pauline</title>
		<link>http://hovreferendum.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/what-happened/#comment-69</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder if the people who made this website live in Venezuela or speak spanish and listen to Chavez. Because all the things he say is crap. He is a non educated man and doesn&#039;t have diplomas. He talks and talks and talks and the non educated people of Venezuela believe in this man because they don&#039;t know better. 10 years of power and still nothing changed. The people can even travel with dollars if they want to .. they have to buy dollars on the black market if they want to leave the country. He lies and lies and lies and lies to his people how can you say that this is a good thing? It is so obvious that this man doesn&#039;t have the skills to govern a country. It is not honest and the people who are against him are lovely people with a hart who wants the best for all the people in their country. They want to go to school savely without worries that someone kill them for their shoes. I&#039;m sure that all these people didn&#039;t travel truth caracas to the mountains of little houses were live people who can&#039;t read and have a big poster on their house of carton with SI CHAVEZ SI! 

How can you explain this? It is a mind game that chavez plays with this people. Maybe he has good intention but certainly he don&#039;t know how to organize. 10 years of power and everything is getting worse, I have seen it with my own eyes. How do you explain that at sunday the dirst of february he said in the evening that nobody can gow to work the next day because of his aniversery of 10 years? Only the liquerstors where open and all people in red clothes drinking and celebrating. The people who wanted to work were punished by the police. He imports everything. Venezuela don&#039;t produce nothing only petrolio and where does all that money goes? Where are all the dollars if the normal people can&#039;t buy dollars?!?! Their are a thousand more reasons why this men has to go.

All the people who are against Chavez that I know in Venezuela. Don&#039;t think about captalism or socialism they don&#039;t care what kind of government they have.. the only thing they want is that their comes system that works. They want good education, Money for their work (not 10 BSf a day), good health care and hygiene, Security and police men that are wurth it not the one that steel from all the drugsadicts and use drugs by them selves, they want to be able to travel free around all the world, and a lot of more things that chavez in the 10 years of his power didn&#039;t IMPROVE AT ALL. 

Now people say why so many people vote for this men? Because he manipulates them with money, houses etc. and words.
For example the people who are campaining for Chavez receive money for this. They live in the porest houses and have a big car in front if it with a big music instaltion. They drink bear all they and shout CHAVEZ SI SI SI. And this is how they live.. they are fine with it because they don&#039;t know better. You can say they are no sheeps but they are pore and happy with all the money they recieve. It is a very said thing that is going on and I wish that one day their comes a president who knows to govern and helps all the people.  

Venezuela is a beautifull country with beautifull people who all wants the best for everybody they want that the Chavez people open their minds to improve the country. They are agains it for a reason .. not to just be against it! I&#039;m sorry if my english isn&#039;t that perfect I&#039;m dutch girl and a very free girl. I can buy all the money that is availeble in the world and I have free access to all the places in the world. I can live without fair being robed every day and I learn English and all other things I want to at school. I lived in Venezuela for 2 years and I have seen the struggles because of Chavez. My boyfriend is from Venezuela and he just want to live Free and he knows that with Chavez this is imposible because this men has a very closed mind and doesn&#039;t see the real issues of his country. The real issue isn&#039;t SI or NO! They want to feel save with chavez or without him!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the people who made this website live in Venezuela or speak spanish and listen to Chavez. Because all the things he say is crap. He is a non educated man and doesn&#8217;t have diplomas. He talks and talks and talks and the non educated people of Venezuela believe in this man because they don&#8217;t know better. 10 years of power and still nothing changed. The people can even travel with dollars if they want to .. they have to buy dollars on the black market if they want to leave the country. He lies and lies and lies and lies to his people how can you say that this is a good thing? It is so obvious that this man doesn&#8217;t have the skills to govern a country. It is not honest and the people who are against him are lovely people with a hart who wants the best for all the people in their country. They want to go to school savely without worries that someone kill them for their shoes. I&#8217;m sure that all these people didn&#8217;t travel truth caracas to the mountains of little houses were live people who can&#8217;t read and have a big poster on their house of carton with SI CHAVEZ SI! </p>
<p>How can you explain this? It is a mind game that chavez plays with this people. Maybe he has good intention but certainly he don&#8217;t know how to organize. 10 years of power and everything is getting worse, I have seen it with my own eyes. How do you explain that at sunday the dirst of february he said in the evening that nobody can gow to work the next day because of his aniversery of 10 years? Only the liquerstors where open and all people in red clothes drinking and celebrating. The people who wanted to work were punished by the police. He imports everything. Venezuela don&#8217;t produce nothing only petrolio and where does all that money goes? Where are all the dollars if the normal people can&#8217;t buy dollars?!?! Their are a thousand more reasons why this men has to go.</p>
<p>All the people who are against Chavez that I know in Venezuela. Don&#8217;t think about captalism or socialism they don&#8217;t care what kind of government they have.. the only thing they want is that their comes system that works. They want good education, Money for their work (not 10 BSf a day), good health care and hygiene, Security and police men that are wurth it not the one that steel from all the drugsadicts and use drugs by them selves, they want to be able to travel free around all the world, and a lot of more things that chavez in the 10 years of his power didn&#8217;t IMPROVE AT ALL. </p>
<p>Now people say why so many people vote for this men? Because he manipulates them with money, houses etc. and words.<br />
For example the people who are campaining for Chavez receive money for this. They live in the porest houses and have a big car in front if it with a big music instaltion. They drink bear all they and shout CHAVEZ SI SI SI. And this is how they live.. they are fine with it because they don&#8217;t know better. You can say they are no sheeps but they are pore and happy with all the money they recieve. It is a very said thing that is going on and I wish that one day their comes a president who knows to govern and helps all the people.  </p>
<p>Venezuela is a beautifull country with beautifull people who all wants the best for everybody they want that the Chavez people open their minds to improve the country. They are agains it for a reason .. not to just be against it! I&#8217;m sorry if my english isn&#8217;t that perfect I&#8217;m dutch girl and a very free girl. I can buy all the money that is availeble in the world and I have free access to all the places in the world. I can live without fair being robed every day and I learn English and all other things I want to at school. I lived in Venezuela for 2 years and I have seen the struggles because of Chavez. My boyfriend is from Venezuela and he just want to live Free and he knows that with Chavez this is imposible because this men has a very closed mind and doesn&#8217;t see the real issues of his country. The real issue isn&#8217;t SI or NO! They want to feel save with chavez or without him!!!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on About this blog by Rob</title>
		<link>http://hovreferendum.wordpress.com/about/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are fools- your leader will over-reach and bring war down on you. Chavez will buy weapons and seek expansion and you will suffer and see no good change except isolation and 50 or more years of Cuban-style poverty. You have no concept of democracy and self-rule and so you are doomed to seeking that strong man on a white horse to come and save you. You will see no oil wealth; instead your sons will fight in his growing army and die for nothing. Your economy can be shut down with a few cruise missiles, and Russia will not risk nuclear war over you. You are run by a military dictatorship and only bad will come of this.

Viva La Revolución (and good luck)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are fools- your leader will over-reach and bring war down on you. Chavez will buy weapons and seek expansion and you will suffer and see no good change except isolation and 50 or more years of Cuban-style poverty. You have no concept of democracy and self-rule and so you are doomed to seeking that strong man on a white horse to come and save you. You will see no oil wealth; instead your sons will fight in his growing army and die for nothing. Your economy can be shut down with a few cruise missiles, and Russia will not risk nuclear war over you. You are run by a military dictatorship and only bad will come of this.</p>
<p>Viva La Revolución (and good luck)</p>
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		<title>Comment on what happened? by Richard Neva</title>
		<link>http://hovreferendum.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/what-happened/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Neva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a gringo I must say something for the demonic behavior of the United States involvement in the personal lives of our brothers and sisters of Latin America.  I am ashamed to live in this country and my solidarity with your struggle can only be in my prayers and wishes for you to defeat the devils from my country that are invading your country!  Please search them out and take care of business, export them in a horizontal position with a bullet between the eyes!  They deserve nothing less!  Viva la Revolucion!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a gringo I must say something for the demonic behavior of the United States involvement in the personal lives of our brothers and sisters of Latin America.  I am ashamed to live in this country and my solidarity with your struggle can only be in my prayers and wishes for you to defeat the devils from my country that are invading your country!  Please search them out and take care of business, export them in a horizontal position with a bullet between the eyes!  They deserve nothing less!  Viva la Revolucion!</p>
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		<title>Comment on what happened? by Zoospore</title>
		<link>http://hovreferendum.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/what-happened/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoospore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation :) Anyway ... nice blog to visit.

cheers, Zoospore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow i missed the point. Probably lost in translation <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Anyway &#8230; nice blog to visit.</p>
<p>cheers, Zoospore.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About this blog by vinbeazel</title>
		<link>http://hovreferendum.wordpress.com/about/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vinbeazel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am the director of Oil2Windpower; the Video Challenge and REPower Education, the Energy Project for students and energy contractors/coaches.

I have a long-term interest in the welfare of Venezuela, as the nation that adopted a young missionary in 1982, as a translator of sacred songs into the Guajiro dialect for and by local church members who were being sidelined by their Latino elders.  By translating the songs into the native language, they were able to tell their own message in their own tongue.  That experienced helped to connect with the native people in solidarity...not as a North American, trying to impose a capitalist solution on a proud and humble people, who were willing to learn and teach, but not be colonized by white church leaders.  They were not anti anything; they were happy with what they could do for their families and their people, who were being forced from their own lands, and seeking to rebuild on government lands in Maracaibo, with or without help from the government.  A true example of the Bolivarian leadership, which seeks to tear down the walls between nations, to build new bridges and reservoirs of mutual understanding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the director of Oil2Windpower; the Video Challenge and REPower Education, the Energy Project for students and energy contractors/coaches.</p>
<p>I have a long-term interest in the welfare of Venezuela, as the nation that adopted a young missionary in 1982, as a translator of sacred songs into the Guajiro dialect for and by local church members who were being sidelined by their Latino elders.  By translating the songs into the native language, they were able to tell their own message in their own tongue.  That experienced helped to connect with the native people in solidarity&#8230;not as a North American, trying to impose a capitalist solution on a proud and humble people, who were willing to learn and teach, but not be colonized by white church leaders.  They were not anti anything; they were happy with what they could do for their families and their people, who were being forced from their own lands, and seeking to rebuild on government lands in Maracaibo, with or without help from the government.  A true example of the Bolivarian leadership, which seeks to tear down the walls between nations, to build new bridges and reservoirs of mutual understanding.</p>
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		<title>Comment on what happened? by Christophe Thill</title>
		<link>http://hovreferendum.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/what-happened/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christophe Thill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much as I hate GW Bush, I don&#039;t think that the term limit he&#039;s going to reach is democratic. If the US are to get rid of him, it would be much better if it was as the result of a democratic vote, rather that for a legal-technical reason like this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I hate GW Bush, I don&#8217;t think that the term limit he&#8217;s going to reach is democratic. If the US are to get rid of him, it would be much better if it was as the result of a democratic vote, rather that for a legal-technical reason like this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on what happened? by darrall cozens</title>
		<link>http://hovreferendum.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/what-happened/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[darrall cozens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patrick says it all. In how many countries are there limits to the number of times that you can stand for the highest office? In the UK you can stand as often as you want. The decision on being elected is not in the hands of the candidate but the electorate. Who elected the UK head of state, the Queen? Who elected Juan Carlos in Spain who told Chavez to shut up? Nobody! He was nominated by a fascist dictator, Franco! As for the army being politicised, Craig has to remember that the armed forces under capitalism are there to protect the status quo in society and that means protecting the interests of those who stand at the top of society. Without a politicised army there is no chance of changing society. The lower ranks in Venezuela are with Chavez against poverty and hunger. The top brass are split between the opposition and their jobs and careers.
Darrall Cozens]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick says it all. In how many countries are there limits to the number of times that you can stand for the highest office? In the UK you can stand as often as you want. The decision on being elected is not in the hands of the candidate but the electorate. Who elected the UK head of state, the Queen? Who elected Juan Carlos in Spain who told Chavez to shut up? Nobody! He was nominated by a fascist dictator, Franco! As for the army being politicised, Craig has to remember that the armed forces under capitalism are there to protect the status quo in society and that means protecting the interests of those who stand at the top of society. Without a politicised army there is no chance of changing society. The lower ranks in Venezuela are with Chavez against poverty and hunger. The top brass are split between the opposition and their jobs and careers.<br />
Darrall Cozens</p>
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		<title>Comment on what happened? by Patrick Larsen</title>
		<link>http://hovreferendum.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/what-happened/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Larsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps &quot;Craig M&quot; will explain us why he is scared about &quot;president for lifetime&quot;? A theme that all bourgeois newspapers are echoing. Someone can only get president, if he or she is ELECTED by the people! Remember, that in Europe, there is no limit on how many times you can be prime minister, in any country I know of.
So what&#039;s the problem? Perhaps YOU are scared, that Chávez might win against the right-wing in future elections, because he puts forward left-wing ideas?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps &#8220;Craig M&#8221; will explain us why he is scared about &#8220;president for lifetime&#8221;? A theme that all bourgeois newspapers are echoing. Someone can only get president, if he or she is ELECTED by the people! Remember, that in Europe, there is no limit on how many times you can be prime minister, in any country I know of.<br />
So what&#8217;s the problem? Perhaps YOU are scared, that Chávez might win against the right-wing in future elections, because he puts forward left-wing ideas?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Referendum day &#8211; the summoning of the faithfull by jsb</title>
		<link>http://hovreferendum.wordpress.com/2007/12/02/referendum-day-the-summoning-of-the-faithfull/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jsb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This was a sign to the opposition saying we are here, we are not gong to go away, we are the real majority.&quot;

28%? Some majority, mate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This was a sign to the opposition saying we are here, we are not gong to go away, we are the real majority.&#8221;</p>
<p>28%? Some majority, mate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on what happened? by Craig M</title>
		<link>http://hovreferendum.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/what-happened/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 06:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is another theory:

Perhaps the masses dared to defy your wishes and dreamed of a country withut a President for life. Perhaps they wnat it about as badly as you&#039;d prefer a President Bush without limits of terms in office.

Perhaps the masses dared to hope of a military devoid of politicization. Instead, they continue to march with official chants of: &quot;Homeland, Socialism, or Death!&quot;. Can you imagine soldiers of the West marching with &quot;Capitalism or Death!&quot;. Atrocious politicization.

Perhaps the people wanted some autonomy attached to the Central Bank again, instead of being tied to Hugo.

Perhaps the people dared to wish for a litle more separation than currently exists between state and judiciary, now that Hugo has stacked the benches.

Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another theory:</p>
<p>Perhaps the masses dared to defy your wishes and dreamed of a country withut a President for life. Perhaps they wnat it about as badly as you&#8217;d prefer a President Bush without limits of terms in office.</p>
<p>Perhaps the masses dared to hope of a military devoid of politicization. Instead, they continue to march with official chants of: &#8220;Homeland, Socialism, or Death!&#8221;. Can you imagine soldiers of the West marching with &#8220;Capitalism or Death!&#8221;. Atrocious politicization.</p>
<p>Perhaps the people wanted some autonomy attached to the Central Bank again, instead of being tied to Hugo.</p>
<p>Perhaps the people dared to wish for a litle more separation than currently exists between state and judiciary, now that Hugo has stacked the benches.</p>
<p>Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps&#8230;</p>
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